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Well. It had to happen eventually I suppose. A Moff episode that was less than excellent. Still, RTD had a lot worse in his time, and I'm willing to cut the guy some slack for an episode... review under cut.



I loved the beginning with Amy and Rory in the car even if my brother told me right off they were writing a Doctor message. Actually, I just love Rory and Amy full stop! Anyway, I liked the cars and the cornfields.

My brother when Mels turned up, "I hate her. Get rid of her. I hate her."
Me: "LOOK SHE HAS A GUN LIKE RIVER SONG'S. I BET YOU SHE'S HER."
Him: "I still hate her. She is NOT River. River is cool."

Anyway, "Let's Kill Hitler." BAAAM. CREDITS. Nice one Moff.

Loved the flashback with Amy, Rory and Mels (even if Mels did appear in their lives out of nowhere grumble mumble). I like that this series Rory and Amy are a proper couple. It's an interesting dynamic on the TARDIS. I also loved the bit where Amy thinks Rory is gay and then he walks out and she runs after him. Sniff *cute* ALSO CAITLIN BLACKWOOD. I LOVE HER. MAY SHE BE AROUND IN MANY MORE EPISODES.

So Hitler is in fact a side show for River. Right. Why? But also why not? Also, Rory punching Hitler is win so yay for that!

Hitler's a terrible shot and YAY RIVER. REAL RIVER. I knew I was right about that. Hmmm, though this ep I think Moff got a bit too ficcy within his episode, and also a bit too self referential what with the whole reference to Doctor Who? again and also Alex' crazy hair of win. River kissing Doctor and then jumping out of the window was pretty cool.

Also, was I the only one who thought at "I'm all mature," of Big Town All Stars and Nicola saying "You're not mature!" and the boys rejoinding with "We are mature, we are mature, we are mature." No? Just me then ;)

I thought Alex was really amazing this episode, especially as she had to play at being someone younger than she really is. There was lots of comedy what with the clothes stealing and the quote about going off to visit a disabled, Jewish, gay camp or whatever it was (though something about the episode's flipness about this did bother me though I'm not sure why yet)

The people police was such a weird inclusion. It was interesting but weird. Also, I totally thought for a second that those guard aliens were about to take Rory and Amy away from me. It really will break me when they leave for real.

Uhoh more timey wimey. Doctor is back in his wedding outfit? Did he go back to The Big Bang? His and River's wedding? (PLEASE NO SANTA MOFF. I liked River/Doctor as a relationship with benefits and no ring). Somewhere else? I love that in the TARDIS he felt guilt over everyone but little Amelia Pond. That girl is adorable. I love her forever. And what was meant by "fish fingers and custard?" Is that going to somehow link back on to The Eleventh Hour? River flies the TARDIS because the TARDIS tells her how!!! Called it from the IDRIS death scene in The Doctor's Wife (still the best episode of this series imo) with the whole "the only water in the forest is the River." Also, in The Big Bang was River saying "I'm sorry my love" to the TARDIS or the Doctor? I was never so sure about that. BAHAHA THIS IS GREAT MOFF. EVERY SINGLE RIVER THEORY WAS CORRECT. I KNEW YOU WOULD PULL SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

And Doctor tells River something!!! His true name? And Alex breaks my heart for the eleventy billioneth time and then she's ill with those cat nurses (SQUEE REMEMBER THEM) and THE DOCTOR LEAVES HER THE TARDIS DIARY. I CALLED THIS. I SO CALLED THIS IN MY FIRST EVER RIVER/DOCTOR FIC THE WIZARD ONLY IN THAT SHE KILLED RORY. *IS EXCITED*

See here: The Wizard

And thats why River learns achaeology? To find The Doctor? I think I might actually be ok with that. River is still cool, with or without the Doctor's influence on her.

So what didn't I like about this? I felt like this episode was way rushed. It was like Moff was shouting at me "I AM GOING TO TELL YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT RIVER IN 45 MINUTES. CREDITS. GO!" I think maybe he just realised how much he had to explain and panicked a little.

I wish we could have seen more of orphaned River (though maybe thats later) and that Mels didn't feel so random, and the episode feel so expositionary (maybe it needed to be a three parter or something)

My other major problem with this episode is the same problem I've had with every single episode with the exception of The Doctor's Wife in series six. None of these episodes can stand alone. They all require that final episode which reveals everything that has been set up re the silence in s5 and 6. Still in Moff I trust and nothing can ever get worse than The End of Time.

Questions answered from my review of Day of The Moon

Who or what is The Silence?
A religous order thats out to get The Doctor because they fear him. The Silent's are a part of this as if everyone in AGMGTW and possibly The Pandorica affair.

Who or what is River Song?
Part Time Lord, part human daughter of River and Amy who is used as a weapon by The Silence. She later kills Eleven at Utah or possibly someone else and ends up in jail in time for previous River episodes that are later in her time stream. She has an affinity with the TARDIS, is a femme fatale, is a super hero and Mary Poppins and part fairy tale all at once. She is in love with The Doctor, he with her (if anyone still insists this is not canon lalalalalala I can't hear you)



Well, what has Doctor Who become these days? My Mum summed it up best imo, "If Life on Mars was the thinking man's Doctor Who, Moffat Doctor Who is now the thinking man's Doctor Who."

Date: 2011-09-06 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dweomeroflight.livejournal.com
I hope I didn't come across too negative. Trust me, I have far, far more faith in the Moff than I ever did in RTD era who. I was just shocked that this episode wasn't up to his usual standards imo.

Thanks for the random Nina fact ;)

Some of the River comedy felt like he'd been reading fan fic for me, I just felt like it was put on a bit thick (but then I think this relates back to me feeling the episode was rushed)

That's what I mean though- the reason I am struggling a little with s6 (though still with much squee it must be said) is because I can't judge alot properly until I know how s6 resolves itself which makes reviews tough for me. Like depending on the outcome of s6, I could do a 360 and suddenly love this episode because now more makes sense etc

Thnaks for the fish fingers thing. Explains alot :) But still, he went somewhere in that time gap, did the Doctor. You mark my words!

Yeah I lean towards TARDIS too. Yay for us :P

"I forgive you" would be kind of sweet as a reason for a turn around. I think I wrote something like that either in my fic The Wizard or River's Diary.

Oh I don't argue with you re River and archeology and why she studies it. I only mentioned that because I know some people weren't happy with it and I was just saying it didn't bother me because River is already enough of a great character in her own right and we know that because we see it.

Wow- I never thought of the circle of influence! True! Timey, wimey!

I get that- I really do but I still wish we could have seen more just because I think there is so much potential there (but then Moffat love timey wimey so much he might come back to it later and then I'll be happy. It would be nice to see how they indoctrinated her though and with what reasoning.)

Off to read your review now and thanks for the cookies XD



Date: 2011-09-06 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squint13.livejournal.com
Oh no, not at all! I didn't mean to say you were wrong in your opinion or too negative or anything, sorry if I came across as judgemental or rude D: (and sometimes I ramble on about things and either complicate things or forget what I was originally going on about which might get confusing for everyone involved, including me *laughs*)

Ah, I see. Hmm. Suppose so. *shrug*

Yeah, I get that. It's a very connected season, and so how it all ends can make it all better, or leave people very annoyed. It's like a big puzzle, and I'm very much looking forward to seeing what the finished picture is gonna be like *grins*

Oh, he so did! He must've. The question is where, and also, why *bounces* There is so much that still confuses me in this season, and I doubt even the things we've been given answers to are actually fully answered. God, if I wasn't so lazy I'd go find that gif of Tennant shaking his fist - MOFFAT, GRRR indeed XD

I didn't argue with you either, I was just agreeing - I guess I'm not very good at making some things get across on the internets *laughs* I guess I also took the opportunity to ramble on about why, because I know of the opinion of some people and disagree XD River is just soooo amazing and I adore her and I liked the way we got to see how she began - how River started to become River in a way. The Doctor provided her with some tools, and then she got to make a choice on her own on what to do with them. It's not like she knew what the blue book was for, she chose to make it her diary - nevermind that she was always going to, it was still her choice. And oh now I'm rambling again ^^

Mhmm, yes. I would love to see more aswell (more River is ALWAYS welcome <3). Still, that explanation is one that works for more, so if we don't get all that much more, I'll be fairly okay with that. I get that it's not like that for others though. :)

Date: 2011-09-06 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dweomeroflight.livejournal.com
I didn't think you were being rude at all!!!!!!!!!! NEVER EVER.

KEEP BEING POSITIVIST. IT MAKES ME HAPPY INSIDE. YOU NEVER KNOW. WHEN S6 ENDS I MIGHT BE BACK WITH YOU.

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